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Post by DP on Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:37 pm

http://dualpixels.com/2014/04/21/possible-leaked-super-smash-bros-character-screen-reveals-full-roster/

Somebody try to find some character poses to see if that roster pic is fake. I'm skeptical but I don't have the time to research right now.
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Post by Count Mario on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:02 pm

The only matching pic I can find is for Ganondorf's:

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Post by Chaosdreams on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:22 pm

Bowser is koopa? Anyone else seeing this on the supposed leaked screen shot?

Anyways it looks like it's debunked.
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Post by DP on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:24 pm

Japanese names for the characters, it seems. At least that's what I got for Lizardon/Charizard.

And yeah, G&W's pic is allegedly flipped from an attack animation/promo art. So probably fake. Carry on.
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Post by papertoonz on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:35 pm

is fake

count said ganondorf pose is his TP render and wario pose is from one of the brawl dojo pics

also in japan they are called ice climber not ice climbers
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Post by 0CTAVE on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:40 pm

The Ice Climber render is a hacked CSP created on Brawl Vault by a user on that board. Someone just took it from there.

I'd say the same goes for Falco too, it actually looks like a flipped version of his original fake for SSB4 lol!
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Post by BladedgeX on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:56 pm

Closest I can find to Chrom's pose is this. Probably did some finishing touches to make it look 3Dish.

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Post by papertoonz on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:18 pm

this topic got a whole lot more interesting
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Post by dragonfire111 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:25 pm

pleeeeeeaaaase no chorus men
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Post by papertoonz on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:26 pm

dragonfire111 wrote:pleeeeeeaaaase no chorus men

salty over blue hair swords men
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Post by dragonfire111 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:29 pm

are you saying you are or i am?
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Post by papertoonz on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:30 pm

mainly you i however wouldn't mind chorus men being a thing
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Post by dragonfire111 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:35 pm

i just dont like the fact that they are a minor character in their own game (only in 1 minigame)
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Post by papertoonz on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:36 pm

so question would you mind if there was a other RH character instead
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Post by dragonfire111 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:40 pm

no i wouldn't mind as long as its someone very prominent throughout the games i actually really like the series

id also prefer lucina over chrom but that's just because i liked her personality better
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Post by Piratemankelly on Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:18 pm

Robin over Chrom.

I love Chrom, I really do, but we already have Marth, Ike, and Mii Swordsman. The only thing that would really set him apart is if they gave him the Fire Emblem as a shield (*cough* Link and Toon Link *cough*), or gave him the option to use lances. Judging by how they tend to use base-FE character with their signature look and weapon, and that Chrom's signature look is his first class and his weapon is the Falchion (a sword), I doubt they'd change it. Lucina is literally the same deal, the only difference she has with Chrom representation wise is she's female.


Which is why I'd want Robin. He / she has the sword, yeah, but also access to magic, notably lightning. Plus, there's the option of having male / female costumes.
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Post by papertoonz on Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:20 pm

leak gets even stronger
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Post by Piratemankelly on Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:25 pm

Yeah. Palutena, Mii(s), and Pacman. That leaves Chrom (which, regardless of the leak, I always found to be obvious), Shulk, and the out-of-nowhere Chorus Kids.

Something I didn't think of yesterday, Sakurai stated that they had simply reserved a seat for an X/Y Pokemon before actually coming to one, then picking Greninja and making him before the game even came out. Remember that second installment of Sal's "leak?" The very vague "X/Y Pokemon?" Sakurai's comment yesterday and that having been the case earlier... I think this leak has finally convinced me of authenticity. Not necessarily because of the characters, mind you, but a mixture of all things considered. Like the above.

Oh, then this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36300102/1402522022305.png


Rhythm Heaven enemy confirmed for Smash Run. So far, every enemy not from Subspace that's been seen belongs to a playable character. Well, there's also Ice Climbers enemies, but I'm certain they're returning, so it's like the same thing.
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Post by DP on Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:36 pm

Copypasted (and edited slightly) from our Facebook chat for everybody else to see: There's always the chance for misinformation when it comes to leaks. Paul Gale's source didn't lie about the missing four reps; he just didn't know for sure if they were confirmed when he QA tested. Thus, leaks for stuff that wasn't there. 


X/Y Pokemon would make sense based on that info (and it makes Greninja a very shallow inclusion), as you noted. And that in theory gives him a buffer of Chorus Kids; like Paul Gale's PSAS Crash/Cloud misinformation, Sales/gematsu guy's leak of Chorus Kids COULD have been an early thought from pre-pre-Alpha development. Such a thought could've been cut early on, and relegated to Smash Run. So with Sakurai's comment about Greninja, he just proved gematsu correct without having to be 100% accurate. Everybody else is either already confirmed or is obvious and has no reason not to be in (unless Chrom was for whatever reason re-replaced by Ike). 


I'm on board. I don't fully believe Chorus Kids, but I don't need to now. 
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Post by Piratemankelly on Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:08 pm

Chorus Kids might just mean Marshall, who is a much more consistent force within the Rhythm Heaven games. The description Sal gave for Villager was something like "that guy from Animal Crossing." 

But yeah, that Greninja vagueness, at least to me, definitely means this was true at at least one point. Still, hits home the point of "wow, that was a really shoehorned character," since they already decided to get a new Pokemon without any merit other than aesthetic. It seems to eliminate the fact that Gamefreak is trying to put Greninja on a higher pedestal than the others from the reasoning behind his inclusion.


Oh, and I was curious about the playable character-to-Smash-Run-enemy thing, so I checked on the Smash website: 

Mii Fighters are considered a Smash Bros representative, given their logo. That means that technically the Subspace enemies ARE represented with a playable character.
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Post by 0CTAVE on Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:36 pm

Nice observation Pirate!

I guess we're getting a rep from there then lol This leak is true?! :P
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Post by DP on Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:45 pm

It doesn't matter if it currently is true, because it was at some point.
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Post by Piratemankelly on Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:08 am

Absolutely no doubt in my mind it was true when Sal's source gave it to him.

And to be honest with you, I'm not particularly skeptical that it had changed at all. I won't be surprised in the least if Chrom, Chorus Kids, and Shulk make it. That said, I'd LOVE to have Ridley and Mewtwo (I mean, Rosalina wasn't on the leak, indicating it wasn't everyone), but that's a pipedream. I mean, we're still left in the dark about a lot of veterans.
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Post by dragonfire111 on Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:12 pm

if gematsu is true and its not all the newcomers this is probably the best possible roster we could get (though i doubt itll happen) gematsu "leak" - Page 2 F1tK9vl
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Post by papertoonz on Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:27 pm

yeah that's not gonna happen i mean it's pretty clear what is going to happen to ridley and i'm pretty sure that snake isn't gonna be coming back

plus this leak didn't list roslina so it's not like that is gonna be it for all the newcomers
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