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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:14 pm

When I first read, "MK8" which was the first thing I noticed the first thing I thought was, "what?  There already is a Mortal Kombat 8" then I realized you meant Mario Kart.


DP: I wouldn't say that just yet, I still expect the product to make its way outside of Japan.  If not, well then it's not like it's region locked.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:38 pm

It IS tied to Japanese PSN accounts and locked with flipped button configurations fitting the Japanese controller setup though, so it's not very wise to import (especially when doing so will set you off $400).
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:39 pm

You can find some on Amazon, or eBay that people imported where they're selling them for around $100.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:51 pm

Oh, nevermind then. Earlier in its life the cost of importing was insanely high lol
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:30 pm

So I'm gonna throw this out there.

Am I the only one who doesn't have full confidence in Second Son as a system seller? Sony legitimately put a lot of eggs in this basket, even arguing that it can hold up to the Titanfall hype. Yes, i3's got some hype to it, but even as mediocre as I think the forthcoming will be, Titanfall still has a LOT more hype. Sony seems to think i3 will move consoles relatively on par with Titanfall though, which I just don't see happening. I love inFamous, but it's not very strong in the way of replayability after you get done with both Karmic Chains. And this is a direct single-player only vs. multiplayer only competition, where 9.5/10 times multiplayer will win even if its metacritic score is 10 points lower (though in many cases single-player only will have the lower score for slightly related reasons).
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by dragonfire111 on Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:18 pm

second son is pretty much the only reason i bought my ps4 when i did so yes its a system seller
(i guess you could also say for FF15 and KH3 but those are a long way away
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:15 pm

But is it a Titanfall system seller? That's my point here. Great or garbage, Titanfall will be directly responsible for the large majority of Xbox One sales through the first half of the year, and will kick up the sales for it a LOT. Second Son looks good, but can we say it'll move a million or more consoles just by launching?
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by dragonfire111 on Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:04 pm

titanfalls on pc as well so its only a system seller for morons
besides i have no interest in that game whatsoever
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by 0CTAVE on Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:28 pm

I agree with dragon, right now that's the only reason I would buy one. What's stopping me from buying it is that the PS4 is sold out again…-__-
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:34 am

Who needs the Spike TV VGA when you've won just about every award you can win in gaming known to man? xD
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/01/naughty-dogs-the-last-of-us-brings-home-two-more-prestigious-awards/
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:56 am

It's amazing how much of a fan of TLoU you've become in the past few weeks during award season...
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by dragonfire111 on Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:18 pm

honestly i didnt find the game that great it gave me way too much ammo to be considered "survival" and the gameplay was just a tad dull and the companion ai was so bad it really ruined my immersion (ellie pushing around clickers)

the story was good but a good story doesnt make a good game rather a combo between good story and gameplay is what makes a game great (the stanley parable is an unusual exception for me because of it being an amusing parody)
take for example one of my favorite games ever paper mario 2 great story and gameplay
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:29 pm

DP wrote:It's amazing how much of a fan of TLoU you've become in the past few weeks during award season...
I just now started playing it, I didn't have an HD tv to play it on for a while and I'm really liking it.  It's been a great game and an amazing storyline, you really feel like you're apart of that universe.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:43 pm

Nintendo "officially" announced what we already knew: Its recent games are actually selling just fine. It had four titles that released in the last six months that have sold a million copies. 3DW, WWHD, Pikmin 3, and (oddly enough) Wii Party U. Super Luigi U also sold a million, and I'm sure Nintendoland got another jump due to it having been packed-in until recently. 3DW is notably at around 2 million according to some sources, and as far as I can tell that's an old number. That matches (actually, surpasses) Mario Galaxy 2 for sales in the first few months - and SMG2 had a bigger launch than its predecessor (and I could get into a comparison between hardware numbers ateach game's launch but the result is obviously that 3DW surpasses both Galaxies proportionately in early sales). So despite it having hardware troubles, Nintendo showed that it can still sell its games just fine.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:33 am

http://www.cinemablend.com/m/games/Wii-U-Memory-Bandwidth-GPU-More-Powerful-Than-We-Thought-62437.html

Surprise! The Wii U can be pushed to "true next gen" levels, according to a simple stretch of logic given in that article, and according to many (third party) developer comments. Levels that rival the Xbox One's (relatively middling) capabilities. Given, we haven't had a year to test the latter yet, to see how far it can go, but native 720p vs. native 1080p at launch says a lot on its own. Of course, the PS4 blows both out of the water (my god, that machine is beautiful). Really, the only thing holding the U's development back is that it isn't architecturally a triplet to the Xbox One/PS4's twins - so third parties don't want to focus on an entirely new codebase.

Good article, no bias, developer interviews, the whole nine yards.

Edit: Also, another indie dev swears allegiance to the PS4. http://www.cinemablend.com/m/games/C4-Engine-Games-Exclusive-PS4-Due-PR-Missteps-Xbox-One-Says-Dev-62563.html
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:38 am

In other words, Nintendo's awful third-party support is holding them back.  I'm sure we already knew this.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:51 am

Yeah, let's sidestep around every other aspect of the discussion and aim directly at something almost completely unrelated because you don't like Nintendo and cannot possibly spend five seconds of your life acknowledging anything remotely NOT negative about them. In that case you're right. Nintendo cannot succeed without third party support. I mean, the NES bombed. So did the SNES. And don't even get me STARTED on that useless piece of shit Game Boy.

If you're only going to focus on the side of a conversation that strokes your own ego, just leave it alone. That's not just a polite request either. That's the reason this forum was created.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:58 am

A.) Third-party support didn't matter when the NES and SNES released.  In the it was all about who had the better exclusives until around the middle of the 7th generation of consoles.

B.) Nintendo has no real competition in the handheld market.

Check and mate.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:18 am

Third parties didn't matter until the 7th gen, you say? Well I guess I should go tell Sony to go back in time and forget about ever striking a deal with Universal for the rights to Crash and Spyro. And I'll tell Sega to make sure to DEFINITELY stay on track and let EA abandon their consoles, because third parties didn't matter until 2010.

And Nintendo has no competition in the handheld market, you say? So you admit the Vita is a flop and Sony is gonna go bankrupt? And that the PSP was a failure too?

I can play this game too. Go ahead, keep dodging around arguments trying to make yourself look infallible. I think we could all use some entertainment around here. I could easily go and discuss how third parties were of importance all the way back to the first gen, or how third parties we're synonymous with the term "exclusive" until the fifth gen, or how, y'know, Nintendo controls the handheld market because they took it decades ago due to a strong first party presence that none of the other half dozen handhelds could manage, but it'll be more fun to use your own flawed debate process against you.

As an admin, though, I won't take the fun past this post. I'll give you two options: You back off of topics that don't interest you, or at least you keep your comments within a reasonable amount of vitriol. Or - in lieu myself breaking forum rules and making a point of going into every topic you comment positively in and making an asinine, uneducated reply specifically to show you what you do in many threads - I throw you for trolling/attempting to incite shit from other forumgoers. And I've warned you MANY times to leave your comments with respect for others' opinions, instead of this high-horse bullshit that you'd successfully avoided for a decent while after your last issue, so I would have no trouble in doing so.

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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:30 am

I'm not sure if you get this yet, but...
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:39 am

Then make like Punk and walk out of the thread, like he did with WWE.

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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:03 am

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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by DP on Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:50 pm

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/21405/article/sony-sells-its-entire-stake-in-square-enix/?utm_source=crowdignite.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=crowdignite.com

This could REALLY affect the possibility of future exclusivity to PS platforms (on smaller games or remakes, I mean, since exclusivity is a fiscal impossibility on AAA games nowadays).
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by BigBox on Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:21 pm

I guess Square is becoming a gamble since their RPG announcement.
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Re: 8th Generation General Discussion

Post by dragonfire111 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:43 pm

Anaconda_Vice wrote:I guess Square is becoming a gamble since their RPG announcement.
squares RPG announcement was a good thing
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