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Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:12 pm

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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by lpool1996moh on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:03 pm

welp theres the answer to our quetion. either DICE has the entirity of china working for them or their games are gonna get a hell of alot worse.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by this_is_marko on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:06 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!  Battlefront 3 NEEDS to be good!  I've waited too long for it!
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:11 pm

As of 2012 DICE has over 320 employees, with this many games in development I don't think that number shrank much at all.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by lpool1996moh on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:19 pm

320 for 15 games on an engine as complex and as new as Frostbite 3........yep its not enough, they would need at least 1k across two or 3 studios and proper scheduling.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by Chaosdreams on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:25 pm

YAY  Bf4 better not be another Bf3

pissed  Better not be.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:28 pm

Not much new things were done to Frostbite 3.  It's essentially the same engine Frostbite 2 is but re-worked with the bugs worked out.  Then re-branded to give it a new start because Frostbite 2 picked up a bad name when BF3 launched.  They aren't working with new software, they're working with currently existing software that had the codes updated slightly.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by lpool1996moh on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:33 pm

its a new engine, updated Frostbite 2 or not it still takes time to learn and its still uber complex with alot of differences to its predecessor. even if you know engines like the back of your hand, DICEs uber complex games take time. it is also heavily updated/upgraded. its like a whole new project. 15 is too much

Anaconda_Vice wrote:They aren't working with new software, they're working with currently existing software that had the codes updated slightly.
This is actually much worse than starting from scratch. bringing games forward to a newer engine is ALWAYS disastrous unless done from scratch.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:41 pm

lpool1996moh wrote:its a new engine, updated Frostbite 2 or not it still takes time to learn and its still uber complex with alot of differences to its predecessor. even if you know engines like the back of your hand, DICEs uber complex games take time. it is also heavily updated/upgraded. its like a whole new project. 15 is too much
The project seems more likely to roll out in the span of 5 to 7 years until everything is complete.  This doesn't include potential cancellations, as well as how many of those titles are collaboration.  I don't see DICE's games such as Battlefield 4, Mirror's Edge 2 and Battlefront being affected by this.
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Post by lpool1996moh on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:50 pm

5-7 years is too much to try roll out even 4 games of dice quality, they run on a two year minimum cycle.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:05 pm

Like I said before, there's room for cancellations and we don't know how many of them are collaboration projects.  Although, we do know that DICE and DICE LA(Danger Close) are collaborating to make Battlefield 4 and Battlefront as well as Mirror's Edge 2 most likely.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by DP on Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:30 pm

SSM crumbled under a few consecutive games and dropped most of them with 400 employees. I call shit thar DICE can handle 15 with 320. BioWare barely survived dual development of ME3 and TOR, with multiple studios.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:51 pm

The idea doesn't seem very far off, they seem to be managing it just fine since there have been no bad reports from DICE. This just really shows how good of a developer DICE is. With the comparrison to BioWare, I don't think they're very good. I don't like BioWare's engine. As for SSM, they were most likely told to focus on their original I.P's or their focus is their original I.P's only. As a developer, I think that DICE knows full well what they're getting into and being the veteran developer they are I think that they can manage their projects and balance them correctly.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by DP on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:02 pm

They have no choice. We won't know if they can handle it or if they chose to, and safe bet is no for either because EA is still EA. PR friendlier, yeah, but there's a reason why BioWare was overwhelmed, and it wasn't the MMO.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by dragonfire111 on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:11 pm

thats ea for ya crackin that whip real hard
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by lpool1996moh on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:14 pm

pretty much. track records show that 4 projects is too much for even the biggest studios, 15? no question. way too much. 

DICE are a wonderful dev....... hence why this was expected. its EA! they swallow devs up, reduce them to nothing. Like Activision or Microsoft with Rare only worse.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:15 pm

Well, looking there's a number of reasons they could have been overwhelmed. First you have the Mass Effect 3 backlash which probably disrupted their work flow and caused a whole lot of PR time over nothing. Then when they released the MMO, I think they were expecting it to generate a lot more profit than it did. Especially since the game had the Star Wars license and played similar to Mass Effect. Ultimately, the game didn't reach the success they probably expected it to after World of Warcraft stomped it out like the franchise has done to many other MMO's. Now, looking at their new Dragon Age game it run on Frostbite 3. I would assume that they're working with DICE to make the game. We now know that 5 of those 15 games are going to be BF4, SW:BF, Mirror's Edge 2, Dragon Age: Inquisition and BF5.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by lpool1996moh on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:31 pm

given the short time between SWTOR and ME3 they scandal had little effect on the development of the games, they were likely separate teams. 

theres two more in NFS rivals and Plants vs Zombies but even then helping out with that many games is just......it can't be done. Look at SSM its a better parallel than Bioware. they helped out with alot of games, killed them fast (Which they had to do to develop GoW) and GoW suffered as a consequence. Everything did. this is exactly the same.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by DP on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:34 pm

If they mean that they provide licenses and help to Frostbite 3 for 11 games, THAT'S possible. And I hope that's what they mean.
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Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:39 pm

That's basically what I've been saying this whole time DP.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by DP on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:44 pm

I don't know why, but I skipped past the word "Frostbite" in the OP lol. My bad. You can see why I'd be concerned abou. 15 ACTIVE games.
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Re: DICE Has at Least 15 Frostbite Games in Development

Post by BigBox on Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:20 pm

Ahh... I see.
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