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Post by Count Mario on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:46 am

It's better than getting 4x Bug weakness.
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Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:51 am

Yes and no.there is only 2 or 3 competitive bug moves but one of them is U Turn which is on everything. Stealth Rock weakness is far worse.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by Count Mario on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:58 am

Eh. Stealth Rock is deadly, but I'm not in favor of saying that every Pokemon from now own shouldn't have a secondary fire typing because of it. But perhaps Psychic is the better option. I guess I just wanted a type that could help counter Lucario for aforementioned selfish reasons.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:02 am

oh you could give the mega form a fire typing. It would just suck. But if i'm correct on first switch in it would take 12.5 percent with 25 on every next switch due to transformation mechanics.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:55 am


  • Charizard, Blastoise, Gengar,Kangaskhan, Pinsir, Jynx, Gyarados, Aerodactyl, Mewtwo
  • Ampharos, Scizor, Houndoom, Tyranitar, Heracross
  • Gardevoir, Absol, Medicham, Banette, Latias, Latios, Aggron
  • Abomasnow


what do these pokemon have in common? 

They have had their trademarks reregistered for a larger marketing scope. Look at whos highlighted...

now before its brought up, Lucario and Blaziken as a mascot and starter respectivley, have ongoing HUGE trademarks. Only mawile doesn't have one. 
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by dragonfire111 on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:46 am

lpool1996moh wrote:oh you could give the mega form a fire typing. It would just suck. But if i'm correct on first switch in it would take 12.5 percent with 25 on every next switch due to transformation mechanics.
 stealth rock is the only reason i stopped playing competitively the meta is way too focused around it to the point where it seems like its just a straight up nerf for anything with a rock weakness
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:55 am

That was the point. Most dragons have a flying subtype. so it was a nerf with how powerful they were gonna get after some dragon moves went physical....then garchomp happened. 

Some pokemon like volcerona are only ou not uber cause of rocks.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:07 pm

ok for the laugh i'm going to make sets for these megas. lets just see where it gets us.

Absol
as it stands Absol has the most powerful, if unreliable Priority move in the game. its STAB 130 Sucker Punch hurts. but it doesn't always work and its easily walled. As of now Absol still has access to Superpower and should this remain in gen 6 it has a great coverage move. its new speed is also a help. imo the number one set for this mega will be a Swords Dance set. something like this

Absol
Adamant Nature
Hp4/Atk252/Spe252
Absolite 
Super Luck (To become Magic Bounce)
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
Superpower
Gen 6 Dark Stab/SUbstitute/Fire Blast

Absol would like a more reliable STAB move but its other option is Night Slash. Magic Bounce is a blessing. not only can it come in on ANY wall now like Ferrothorn and bounce back hazards, it can't be phased outside Dragon Tail/Circle Throw or Statused. Absols weakness will be priority. Mach Punch and Vacuum Wave will kill it instantly as will Scizors Bullet Punch (Set to become more common if the rumours of Fairy being hit for SE damage by steel are true.) Solid OU

Ampharos
Ampharos is confirmed to somehow get Dragon Pulse, adding to its great coverage moves like Power Gem, Signal beam Focus Blast and others. its very bulky with support options like Heal Bell and Toxic. I'm not sure what set this thing should run until we see its full Stats. as good as all this sounds.......its not. Ampharos is outclassed by alot of things at each of its jobs. I see it in UU

Blaziken

Blaziken
Adamant Nature
HP4/252Atk/Spe252
Blazikenite
Speed Boost
Flare Blitz
Swords Dance
Protect
Hi-Jump Kick

This is the set that sent Blaziken Uber. why fix what ain't broke? actually it is Broken...kinda the point of Ubers. 
For those of you who may not know the set is simple to use.  Switch in after a death, Swords Dance upon Switch out, Protect if necessary, Sweep. With Partners in Ninetails and Venusaur should it SOMEHOW stay OU its gonna hurt. as it is its in Ubers with Groudon......and it does just fine. 


Kangaskahn

Parental Bond is make or Break for Kangaskahn. if its a typeless Iron Barbs kinda move........this thing is done. stick to normal Kangaskahn. it does have great Priority is Fake out on turn 1 and Suckerpunch, not to mention Return butits still pretty average. 

Mewtwo

Like Arceus E-Killer, Mewtwos Psycho Killer Set is pretty much uncounterable. Aura Sphere, Psystrike, Calm Mind, Fire Blast, Ice beam. combine some of these moves. and your telling me this Megatwo has an increased SpecAtk (Up from 154?) and Speed? (up from 130) They wanted to Create the worlds most powerful pokemon.....they succeeded. 



ok Priority from Arceus and Rayquaza will still ruin your Day but everything else..psh outspeed. 


Lucario

This ends badly for everyone. Its Bullet Punch is now Scizors....and Relevant with Fairy on the rise. Nothing will take its close combats. It has Swords Dance...........Basically what Coverage move should this thing run? a fairy move? Ice Punch? Crunch? ExtremeSpeed? the Choice is yours.

Mawile

oh god put it away!

Mawile is gonna wreck house. it already had good defence which along with its SpecDef is  getting Boosted. its Attack is also getting Boosted through Huge Power. it has one of the highest attacks in the game IF it stays the same (And although GF said its focusing on bulk i'd say its gonna get 5 or 10 points added in Attack. its not like it doesn't need it with Base 380) at base 170! it also has Swords Dance and can't be poisoned. Iron Head, Sucker Punch, The Elemental Punches and Fairy Moves supposedly even Draining Kiss (oh no.) we need to see this things new move pool to know how powerful it really is but it looks OU to me. its speed may let it down however so it won't go Uber.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:42 pm

Mega Evolution will boosts the majority of pokemon to a bst of 600! Some will have 580, some will have less, but some will have up to 670, and MegaMewtwo has a bst of 750. Its on this blog site.

this is just some random guy on youtube....but i'm interested in your opinions guys. if its true (It most likely isn't) all these go uber.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:15 pm

Hiro said there was a MegaScizor. We can trust Hiro so it is "confirmed", but GF hasn't revealed it, so it's unofficial".

from pokejungle. 

i dunno who hiro is but he seems well repected and a reliable leak source

megascizor..........KTHXBAI! DIS BAAAAADDDDDD MORE BBBAAAAAAAAA THEN AMPHAROS>......YA GEDDIT ITS A SHEEP MOOO! 


sorry the knowledge of MegaScizor has caused me to lose all reason.......DIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by Count Mario on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:23 pm

Personally, I think Mega Scizor looks like a cut above the rest. I don't really see the point of your disappointment though. Any way you slice it, you have to get used to it. You've got to stay sharp. I wish you could get a slice of the hype I'm feeling right now.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:25 pm

puns aside you see why this is bad yes? technician boosted Bullet Punch from that thing.......nope..remember when i said Lucarios was Stronger...I lied now. it makes me lie.

actually they could be the same
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by Count Mario on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:28 pm

Oh, I know. I just wanted to tease you with my pun expertise.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:32 pm

too busy pulling my hair out.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:49 pm

next news will be at the weekend at the pokemon gameshow. first demos featuring Mega Pokemon will be played. from their the demos move to gamescom and Korea
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by RWcomix on Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Oh yeah, I heard about those! I didn't know we were getting any reveals though. I mean, it makes sense. Lookin' forward to it! Maybe after that, they'll update the site with Mega Kangaskhan and whatever other pokemon is revealed! xD
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Post by lpool1996moh on Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:55 pm

well maybe not reveals. we are just gonna know EXACTLY how Megalutions work to the letter cause its a bit up in the air right now.

i'd bet my house on a reveal at at least one event though
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Post by RWcomix on Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:25 pm

Oh that's true. Alright, cool! :D
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:37 pm

well its something concrete to look forward to.
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Post by dragonfire111 on Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:24 pm

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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:08 pm

Alright according to serebii forums we should expect leaks in around 3 hours about how the demo version...get hype!
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Post by papertoonz on Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:44 pm

first bit of info

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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:59 pm

Tcg huh? Bout time they were missing sets for x/y. The tcg is done in Japan for b/w and ending with the next set elsewhere.


and I don't even play tcg bitches.
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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by papertoonz on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:10 pm

OMG

there making an anime based on red and green




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Re: Pokemon games (Current discussion: X and Y)

Post by lpool1996moh on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:14 pm

And now actually news. (although that's kickass paper...the games or manga?)

MEGA EVOLUTION. 

when you select an attack you can chose to mega evolve. the evolution happens before you attack and sticks. 

this is great for mawile who can get an intimidate off then mega evolve. Absol may need to sucker punch first turn to bounce back hazards. 

This is a pretty cool development. Speeds u in game grinding and is balanced.
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